Sunday, June 06, 2004

One Nice Guy Coming Up

I am fed up with men, and quite frankly, I'm actually a bit fed up with myself. I love men, and have no intentions of giving up on them, but they really wear out my brain. Whilst there are lots of good ones out there, they don't seem to be knocking on mine or any of my friend’s doors. Except for on Saturday night..........

On Saturday, I went on a date with what was probably one of the nicest guys ever. He was kind, sweet, quiet, shy, unassertive, reliable, steady, and a little bit boring, but just very...........nice. He wants to settle down, doesn't go out much and is quite tight with his family. He has a steady pensionable job, owns his own home (even though it's in the arse of nowhere miles outside London!), and seems so.....nice.

On paper, he sounds like a dream. In reality, he was just too nice. Not too nice for me, before anybody misunderstands me. I want a nice guy, but I need one that is going to stimulate and challenge me mentally, emotionally, and physically, and I think that this guy is almost too nice to stimulate himself! I would literally run rings around this guy!

I've told some of my friends, and most of them understand where I am coming from. They think it's great that he's nice, but we're like chalk and cheese, and it would be difficult for someone with my personality to forge a relationship with someone like that.

I'm loud, cheeky, very sociable, and I'm not exactly shy about coming forward. I actually had to ask this guy to repeat something he said FIVE times, because he spoke so quietly, and unassertively. A lot of the conversation consisted of 'I'm sorry, what did you just say?'; 'Can you repeat that again?', and after a while I just said, 'Speak up'. And trust me, my hearing is just fine, and the music wasn't loud. Surely if someone asks you to keep repeating yourself, it makes sense to, oh I don't know, talk louder for instance!

To make things even worse, there were a few times in the evening, when I was sure that I had inadvertently offended him, and found myself checking to see if he was ok a lot. I come from a family of smart arses, and sometimes I forget that people don't sometimes get that type of humour.

The stand out example of this, is when he thought he'd left his mobile phone in the car, and went back to get it. I said that I'd wait for him, and didn't expect to see him return from the car park for ten minutes. So imagine my surprise when he returns in under two minutes looking sheepish. He then admitted that the phone was in his pocket, and I wisecracked that he shouldn't hurry to be a detective. He works as a policeman........

It was literally like I had given him a verbal slap in the face, and I succeeded in feeling like the biggest b*tch on earth! I must have apologised about 20 times, but I don't think he'll be forgetting that one in a hurry!

I did however end up feeling fed up with myself, because I looked at him shortly before I left to go home, and couldn't believe how nice he was and how I didn't fancy him. I really wanted to though, because it would be easier. After all, what am I trying to say? That I only want to go out with pricks that make me jump through hoops?

I was actually having an internal argument with myself trying to make myself fancy him, with the good angel saying, 'Stop being a b*tch, he's a lovely guy', and the bad angel saying, 'Be a b*tch and run like a muther. He can't handle you!' What the hell is wrong with me and many other women out there? Why don't we fancy nice guys?

We whinge about all men being worthless, and that there are no decent men, and then we spend an evening in a nice guys company, and we say he's too nice. I don't think that we actually know what we want. We can give you a big list of don’ts, but the do's are looking thin on the ground.

I don't fancy bad men. I like a man with a bit of edge, but I like the edge to be a mental thing. I want someone I can be friend and lover to, and it's like a meeting of the minds. I have been out with a guy, where I've called him every name under the sun, and he's been stupid enough to agree with what I am saying. That is a man with no edge, and quite frankly, no balls.

I know of men who live life a little bit too much on the edge for my liking. They can't commit, won't commit, cheat, lie, steal, beg and borrow. Some of the men think nothing of trying to get their women knocked up, but they still aren't sure about commitment! So I guess I should have considered myself lucky with Mr Nice Guy.

So it's back to the drawing board for me, and I really must have a think about the type of guy that I do want to be with, because it's quite clear that meeting a nice guy, that treats me well, isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I've also decided that I'm going to set him up with my friend, I just haven't quite figured out how I can slip it into a conversation. Maybe I should just let them meet accidentally on purpose........

Whilst she is quite outgoing, I think that her mothering, organisational character may lend itself to his 'nice' personality. She has more patience, and probably won't mind finishing off his sentences!

My friends and I are thinking about trying speed dating, which whilst I think it's a sad day when you have to pay to meet men at 26, I also think it may actually be money well spent. After all, I will get to understand the types of guy I go for, and what turns me on or off in the first few seconds. The lesson I will be taking with me though, is not to make any wisecracks about a mans job. It's like kicking a man in the nuts, and even I don't want to do that on a 3 minute date!

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Doesnt this story sound all too familiar!?!?

But here is the down side to this tale of nice guys! are nice guys really nice or just bastards in disguise?! Dont know about anyone else but just when you decide 'hold on a minute I might actually be falling for this nice guy' he will turn in to a prick!


me and my girlfriends always say we dont want a 'nice' guy but a guy who could be nice, but who also had a little darkside to him! no one wants it laid on a plate for them, u wanna have to work atleast alittle bit! Nice guys to us always seemed labled with being boring!


I was talking to a male friend of mine yesterday and we were both commenting on the fact that not only ourselves but we also have friends who were all good looking, good sense of humour personality etc etc but still there was no one out there. he then went on to say well , none of my friends would suit you lot, your just too picky!! is it being too picky to have standards?! I dont think so!

also guys have it much easier than us ladies. I have loads of stunning single girlfriends who are all single and have been for a long time, and most of them ( including myself!) are not through choice! there are far more good women out there for guys than there are men for women! there are just SOO MANY guys out there who are dogs, which often led me to say to myself 'where are all the nice guys??'. Well maybe that shoulld be rephrased to 'where are DECENT guys?!?'

canicula71 said...

Most men are comlete and utter fuckers. Their brains are different from ours, and I say, Good fucking job.

Anonymous said...

The problem with most of you ladies is that you want us guys to commit to something while it's convenient and good for YOU. Women are inherently egocentric; and as I like to say, "I'll commit when I'm good and ready to. Don't wanna wait? There's the door. Send the next lady in on your way out."

Most of us guys live by the 'ole sayin' that girls are like fish, there's millions of 'em in the sea." And I know from experience how true that is. A dime a dozen.

BG said...

Ode to Nice Guys

Virginia Belle said...

I completely understand. There is a fine line between being "nice" (read: boring and nardless) and "asshole" (read: well, asshole). Some of my friends don't get that. My mom does, luckily.

I know you will agree with me when i say i simply don't have time to wait for a man to pull his balls out of his purse. If you can't send zingers my way, you have to go. Because i'm one sarcastic girl who likes to tease everyone who can handle it.

It's nice to meet someone who thinks the same way.

NML said...

Hi Virginia. I am embarking on catching up with your delightful comments. I was in stitches reading your comment and if I didn't know better, I'd think we were related ;-)

Anonymous said...

Hey, you are not alone. I tried a reputed dating agency (the one that promises love in six months), and made one date. I thought this was great!. Im 38 and I have been on my own since I was 23. The man was 26. I pondered on it for at least two weeks and then thought "why not". We had a great date: he phoned me to tell me how keen he was, and then he stood me up twice!! No more. I have had a hard time even meeting someone, as I was raped at 21. I put on 7 stone after that, but i'd lost 5 stone by the time I met the shite. Im not going to let him get to me, but, I just can't seem to get a man. I'm not a munter, but maybe brains scare a man (I have a PhD)?? I just need a nice man. I dont look like Mo Slater, more of a slightly less attractive Nigella..... HELP. My brain is really sure that im Quasimodo.....

Anonymous said...

I found I nice guy but cant work out what i'm looking for. He lets me walk al over him and if someone lies down infront of you it's really hard not to do that! He'd make a great hubby and we've been friends for 18 months before things have moved towards relationship territory but where's the whizz bang of passion. Do I want a secure life with a 'nice guy' who'll do anything for me or do I need challange to keep an element of magic? Long term... which is the answer? 27 and none the wiser....

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid you women cant have it both ways.

Wanna settle down and have some stability in your life? Go for a nice guy.
Think nice guys are boring? Go for a bad boy.

But here's the absolutely crucial, critical thing: Don't come complaining when the bad boy treats you like shit! The very thing that attracted you to him also attracts scores of other women, so don't expect him to be faithful - he can get laid ANY time he likes. I see it happening all the time and I have no sympathy for the women involved because it's entirely their own fault for choosing the bad boy!

Also, don't think you can change the nice guy's personality, that's part of what makes him a reliable, nice guy!!

Women are the decision makers when it comes to relationships and sex, so choose wisely and don't moan when you make a mistake!! And try not to be unrealistic and expect everything from one guy - it doesn't work like that.

Mark said...

Quite frankly, articles and sites such as these are something of a joke. Women like you complain bitterly about how you can't find a nice guy, but then when you DO, you complain that he's too nice, and hence boring! What the Hell has being nice got to do with being boring, anyway? Surely boringness, or otherwise, has more to do with intelligence, sense-of-humour, wisdom etc? But apparently not, in the eyes of women like you. It's obvious to me that, deep down, you don't want a nice guy, and wish not to be treated well. The reason that women get treated badly, is because they don't go for nice guys; in turn, this causes guys to act like idiots, because they know that women don't fancy nice guys.

You have only yourselves to blame, when you will spout rubbish about nice guys being boring. Stop blaming men, and take a look at YOUR OWN poor decision making, when it comes to guys. It's painstakingly simple: keep on dismissing nice guys as 'boring', and keep on being treated badly. The choice is all yours.......

But, hey, this nice guy has got balls: if anyone wishes to argue with me, feel free to add me to MSN: markawarren1982@hotmail.com.

NML said...

Mark, I'm afraid you are rather late making your comment. It will be 3 years in June since I wrote that post and I am delightfully happy with a very nice guy, who isn't boring and have a baby on the way in less than 3 months. I'm not sure why you felt the need to make this comment now, but er...thanks.

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